Tribe.net. Local Connections Julie http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#ede18118-7fea-4b53-a1e2-b44c920a94a5 2008-01-03T21:26:27Z 2008-01-03T21:26:27Z

Please go see a dentist. If you are low on money, you can check into the dentistry school at a local college. Peace, Julie

Julie 2008-01-03T21:26:27Z Lyra http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#3fea8e08-02a4-40dd-8123-1c1bd016524a 2008-01-03T20:58:38Z 2008-01-03T20:58:38Z

Thank you everyone! It hurts a lot less today. I'll look around for some peroxide, but I know I have an echinacea tincture. I've been using my mouthwash a lot throughout the day, and been spraying a breath spray (Herb Pharm Breath Tonic, just pure organic peppermint, cinnamon, ginger, and clove essential oils... mmm) on that spot, and that helps a lot too to numb the pain and make it feel better. Also been drinking a lot of echinacea tea, and did a couple salt water gargles with reishi mushroom tincture. It all seems to be helping a lot, if not prolonging my trip to the dentist. Vancouver is a few hours from where I am. I'm pretty much at the northern tip of the Sunshine Coast, so with ferry rides and gas money and everything, Vancouver would be a VERY expensive trip. I'll see what I can find in the way of dentists in town....

Lyra 2008-01-03T20:58:38Z ralph http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#c0938826-a055-4ee7-a854-50c799b6cdc6 2008-01-03T20:53:32Z 2008-01-03T20:53:32Z

You can get it at Walgreens and Walmart. I think it's cheaper at Walmart. It's a liquid that you apply. http://shopping.yahoo.com/s:Pain%20Relief:4168-Brand=Tanac

ralph 2008-01-03T20:53:32Z Bala http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#371b0a3d-40ba-4fb9-8e1d-485e66f5125f 2008-01-03T18:19:49Z 2008-01-03T18:19:49Z

I agree with Tam. Last year i had an impacted wisdom tooth... ouch! I was asked to mix hydrogen peroxide with water and apply it to the are 3 x daily. It really helped sooo much. Hope your pain subsides really soon!! best wishes..

Bala 2008-01-03T18:19:49Z $item.owner.firstName http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#c4c9d340-b606-4dd4-b9e9-bc5401a4945e 2008-01-03T18:09:50Z 2008-01-03T18:09:50Z

if bacteria and such is a concern you could also rinse with ecinachea tintcure, just put a dropperful in water, rinse and spit just to add it here, it is a anti-microbial for pyorrhea and gingivitus as well

$item.owner.firstName 2008-01-03T18:09:50Z tam http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#5aa2f7c6-e541-4bc0-8406-00ad16bdc90b 2008-01-03T16:43:36Z 2008-01-03T16:43:36Z

Hi Lyra...i work in dentistry..you can help the pain by putting whatever you wish on it however like it was mentioned before..if it is impacted (which seems to be the case) you need to get it removed...the gums being swollen cause more "stuff" to get stuck there including more bacteria increasing the risk of infection...my advice for you for now is to rinse with peroxide (you can mix a little mouthwash for taste) three times a day...this helps lift whatever bacteria or stuck food particles out of there...make sure you do this thoroughly...and get to a dentist ASAP...i know it can be costly but this doesn't get better usually...as for the top, you probably had more room up there for a wisdom tooth and upper teeth in general are just easier. good luck, Tam.

tam 2008-01-03T16:43:36Z Shaleh http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#d34b1f01-f746-4a2b-b92d-75a01ffc0867 2008-01-03T13:11:18Z 2008-01-03T13:11:18Z

At your age, wisdom tooth trouble is more likely than anything else. Mine started attempting to come through in my mid twenties. Some came through half way, others not at all. They all had to come out surgically. Yeah-you definately want to be put under for that. Good luck with finding out what is going on.

Shaleh 2008-01-03T13:11:18Z Lyra http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#53d62c68-34d5-41b7-a9c7-7b31b78dc45f 2008-01-03T08:37:23Z 2008-01-03T08:37:23Z

What ever the problem, I'm going to need to be put under. Either that, or I faint at some point during the process... Vasovagal syncope. Thank gods for that sometimes! :P

Lyra 2008-01-03T08:37:23Z $item.owner.firstName http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#a0f961dd-60d1-47c1-ae21-fc4f3a228405 2008-01-03T05:56:56Z 2008-01-03T05:56:56Z

let me restate: I had 4 wisdom teeth pulled in my mid twenties at a dental scholl in sf and it was fine. As it's dental surgury, it will probably be done be a senior student with some supervision. Addtionally even if it isnt your wisdom teth coming in, dental schools usually have a program you can enroll in for general dental care as well as an acute clinic for more pressing needs. So, check it out. ~V~ (hates going to dentist)

$item.owner.firstName 2008-01-03T05:56:56Z $item.owner.firstName http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#c0381beb-2d4c-453c-8e6e-38a417f4edf4 2008-01-03T05:37:53Z 2008-01-03T05:37:53Z

Hey Lyra: If you're in Vancouver, try here: http://www.dentistry.ubc.ca/dental_clinic/ You can get dental care at dental scools for a reduced rate usually... I had all 4 pulled long ago at the dental school in SF and it was fine. chin up, ~V~

$item.owner.firstName 2008-01-03T05:37:53Z Shaleh http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#49abd193-dd97-4fbe-afba-3c015844b727 2008-01-03T05:36:50Z 2008-01-03T05:36:50Z

It is entirely possible that you did get something stuck in there, too. When I went to the dentist over what turned out to be the odontogenic tumor, we thought it was possible that popcorn or something similar had gotten lodged under the gum tissue. She poked and prodded and squeezed trying to get it out, which greatly increased the pain and throbbing. : ( Particles lodged at the gumline will cause a gum abcess.

Shaleh 2008-01-03T05:36:50Z Shaleh http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#363f4d73-c2cf-4f35-9f51-77794b926b58 2008-01-03T05:32:33Z 2008-01-03T05:32:33Z

Wisdom teeth suck. I had all four removed forcibly due to impaction. They caused pain throughout my entire mouth, though. If it's not the wisdom tooth, it could be something abcessing. If at all possible, have it checked out. Not to worry you needlessly, but I had a painful swelling around on of my lower jaw teeth (about midway back). At first I thought it was abcessed, and so did the dentist, but it turned out to be a tumor originating from the bone forming cells in my jaw. It was benign, but it scared the heck out of me. I had to have it cut out and biopsied. Although it was benign, it has a chance of recurring, so I have to be vigilant about it. Again, I don't want to worry you needlessly-mine was a fairly uncommon condition-but it could be alot of things. Clove oil definately helps with the pain, but if it's an impacted wisdom tooth or abcess you'll probably have to resort to something nonherbal eventually. Warm saline rinses and compresses are nice too.

Shaleh 2008-01-03T05:32:33Z Lyra http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#b325c470-a167-42c4-a02d-2958d07c9b09 2008-01-03T04:14:29Z 2008-01-03T04:14:29Z

The other teeth or gum areas aren't hurting though? and it's an "all of a sudden" sort of thing. hm.. Too bad I don't have insurance.. :(

Lyra 2008-01-03T04:14:29Z $item.owner.firstName http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#6caf763b-7eb2-4c8b-b82b-8efb9d6dbc6b 2008-01-03T03:36:32Z 2008-01-03T03:36:32Z

you may want to have it checked out. with that much pain, your wisdom tooth may be impacted. this means it is coming in sideways and pushing on your other teeth.

$item.owner.firstName 2008-01-03T03:36:32Z Lyra http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#682f882b-f6de-4859-87c4-5a5770e76948 2008-01-03T02:11:47Z 2008-01-03T02:11:47Z

Thanks! I just made an infusion of ginger, clove, and cayenne, with some blackstrap molasses... I'll let you know how it works! :)

Lyra 2008-01-03T02:11:47Z Kali http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#72464300-0963-493d-be99-25a057db3025 2008-01-03T02:02:14Z 2008-01-03T02:02:14Z

The spice cloves always works for me. I like the ground cloves so that I can rub it on the gums. Be generous with it and don't hesitate to apply as needed. Good luck!

Kali 2008-01-03T02:02:14Z Lyra http://herbalmedicine.tribe.net/thread/1e61f9ac-aa7b-468c-885e-763e62e83b11#5ceb0b37-d425-489d-bbdd-fb58a8aa59de 2008-01-03T01:11:21Z 2008-01-03T01:11:21Z

Hello! I searched in the archives for something like my situation, but didn't really find what I needed. Here goes: I *think* I have a wisdom tooth coming in. Morning before last, I woke up to a pain in the furthest back space of my gums, on the left bottom. The gums are swollen, but just that one area. It hurts to chew or bite down, because it feels like the gums have elevated above my furthest back tooth. It even hurts that area if I move my tongue. I ate nearly plain polenta last night and today because I can't chew very well. At first I thought it was something stuck back there(because that's what it felt like the first few hours), like almond bits, but I picked around back there and found nothing. Is this going to be a wisdom tooth? I have one coming in above it, but that one never hurt or got swollen coming in, it's just taking a very long time to come in all the way. I'd love to know about something for the pain, too, if anyone has any suggestions. It's making me not want to move my head at all! Argh. I've never had something hurt this bad in my mouth before. Help! Blessings, Lyra

Lyra 2008-01-03T01:11:21Z