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Re: do you trust doctors?
Mon, February 25, 2008 - 8:55 PMIf I know the Doctor, Yes -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 8:57 PMmy doctor is very exceptional, he and i work together for my goals. -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:00 PMThere are alot of great doctors in the world, and alot of bad one, as well. The same can be said about herbalists -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:02 PMvery true dustin, very true.:)
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:01 PMI just came from a showing of the Movie the Business of Being Born. This film was powerful in terms of demonstrating how the birthing process has been turned into big business. As the movie Sicko showed us in general about our medicial system in this country. So from my perspective, I do not trust the way medical care is provided in this country. I do think there are individual doctors who have a more wholistic perspective and I would trust them. But msot physians seem to be caught up in this corrupt system that is not focused on keeping people healthy.
As far as my health is concerned it is most important that I trust myself, to be my own health care advocate, than whether I trust doctors or not. I choose to stay away from conventional medicine as much as possible, but surely if I were bleeding profusely I would pursue care, as real emergencies are what convential medicine is good at.
Blessings
Linda
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:17 PM"As far as my health is concerned it is most important that I trust myself, to be my own health care advocate, than whether I trust doctors or not. I choose to stay away from conventional medicine as much as possible, but surely if I were bleeding profusely I would pursue care, as real emergencies are what convential medicine is good at."
In reality, at the end of the day, *you* are the only person you can trust. Education is the biggest key to leading a healthy lifestyle -
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 4:00 AMright right, education is of the utmost importance!
my pregnancies would have been wayyyy different had i not been educated and sure of what i needed and wanted
i have trouble with my pediatrician as well......always wanting to put them on meds, some to be taken daily..she wanted to give them without even proper testing of the problem.....needless to say my kids are not on the meds and are fine
education is key......especially if you are pregnant!...that system is just wrong now a days ( but i know a midwife in nc i would recommend!) -
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 4:06 AMI have a good friend who's a midwife in NC, but it's a big state, and probably not the same person -
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 4:16 AMthe outer banks? nancy meehan...... i love her! really did not like living in another state with the other pregnancies, but was glad to have that experience first!
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:51 PMas it happens, i have been without a primary care doc for a few years now. my old one sent me a letter - well not him really, some office person, said they no longer accepted my insurance, so he couldnt see me any more. rubber stamp the signature line.
i havent been to the doc since.
why? because, in a nutshell, i dont trust them.
and im not crazy about the system either. it scares me. i dont think i believe that they are looking out after my best interests.
i know i know, there are some exceptional docors out there. im sure there are. somewhere.
i just havent found one for a long, long time...
and i need to. its time to get a check up, that kind of thing. maintenence.
soon, as soon as i find a good doc that i like, and trust.
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:59 PMYes and No.
There are certainly doctors who I trust. I might not always agree with them, but I trust that they mean well. When I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis my doctor wanted me to get on drugs right away. I refused and healed myself with nutritional and herbal medicine and lifestyle changes. I currently have no symptoms for over a year. If i took my doctors advice Id be on these unhealthy hardcore drugs that would seriously fuck my body up, and I think I would be worse off for it.
I like having a doctor who may or may not agree with my self treatment, but who at least listens to me, gives me the honest pros and cons of the options available, and is open and somewhat educated about holistic supplements.
Western medicine is great for certain things. MRIs are like magick. We can look into a person brain and see whats going on without cutting it open. Thats a miracle.....an expensive miracle that will put you in debt, even with insurance, but a miracle. Sometimes its worth while to cooperate with the doctors to get a diagnosis. However, when they prescribe treatment its best to sometimes get a second opinion and do some of your own research before quickly agreeing to do whatever they say. Sometimes the risks outweigh the benefits, and sometimes there are safer ways of treating something like addressing the cause and not just overpowering the symptoms.
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Mon, February 25, 2008 - 10:04 PMi trust naturopath doctors, and the lab people they use. i havent found a western doctor that i trust, the ones i have encountered just want to mask symptoms with a pill or do invasive surgeries....but i am sure there are some out there that are really good. luckily i havent had to go to a western doctor in a really long time. i trust that alot of them want to help people, they just havent been taught the right ways...not enough questioning of the system, where are those pioneers??? alot of the doctors are caught in the system of "corporate backed universities" and pharmaceutical funded and influenced teachings. -
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Mon, February 25, 2008 - 10:11 PMI wouldn't blindly trust a doctor any more than I would an herbalist on the internet.
Point being, I think I always scrutinize certain types of info from people I know and don't know, based on what I know...
If you know what I mean.
I've had a couple of great doctors and a couple of run of the mill very old skool thinking mediocre kind doctors that I found very disappointing
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 10:21 PMHi Jessica,
I am curious where your question comes from and Do you trust them?
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 11:38 PMThe question came from a conversation I was having with my mom....we frequently have conversations about doctors and being able to trust their diagnosis and medications. She trusts everything they say, I don't. I another thread I posted on here I mentioned that I take birth control pills because I was skipping periods for months at a time without being pregnant, and my doctor told me I could have a high risk of getting cervical cancer if I didn't take BC pills to regulate my cycle. I had been reluctant to take them before that, and I still am....though now that I'm on them, I'm afraid to go off because I think that my body will go all out of whack if I stop taking them. I want off of them, and I want to find some other kind of way to regulate my hormones and my cycle without having to be on the pills. My mom stubbornly said that the pills were the only way, and then we got into the conversation about trusting doctors.
I do have a hard time trusting doctors. Usually theyre in a rush and they explain all their knowledge to you really fast and with this distance that makes me feel like all they care about is getting through the day. I would like a doctor that can be a little more personal, someone I would feel more comfortable talking to because they don't put off as much of that distance. I've had doctors who immeditately tried to put me on some med before they even really talked to me about the problem....I can't trust that kind of diagnosis. I don't really know how or where to find a doctor that I would like and be able to fully trust...I've only ever gone to Kaiser. I would love to have a doc that has the knowledge of both western medicine and holistic medicine...someone very well balanced and not so biased towards one side. Then I could trust that they have a full spectrum of knowledge, and could make the rgiht choices because of that.
I once went to the doctor because I was having pain in my wrists, hands and upper arms. I was wondering if I had carpal tunnel or tendonitis or anything like that. Based off of my description of the pain the doctor assumed I had tennis elbow and gave me some arm bands and then she sent me to a physical therapist. Now the physical therapist I really liked because he proved to me that he knew that everything in the body is connected, and after that I trusted everything he said. He also didn't put off that distance, he was very nice and talked to me about my life, got to know me. He told me (proving the other doctor wrong) that since the muscles in the arm are connected to the neck and the back, the pain must be originating in my neck and shoulders and he gave me a bunch of exercises that I could do...AT HOME meaning I wouldnt have to keep coming back to him and I wouldn;t have to pay for a pill for the rest of my life. He showed me that he actually cared about helping me fix my problem....not trying to get me to buy some pill or pay for tons of doctors appointments to get more money. And no, I don't have wrist pain anymore unless I stop doing the exercises for a long period of time while straining my neck at work.
I guess I just like doctors who acknowledge the connection of everything within the body. Seems like most of them just want to give you a pill and send you home after some speedy explaination.
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 11:30 PMHi Jessica. Doctors used to be less corporate in their values. Far fewer doctors nowadays take the time and effort to really find out what is going on with their patients. They have too much worthless education ( I'm not a fan of undergraduate school) and know almost nothing about natural medicine. They seem to find joy in putting it down that is until they or their family become deathly ill themselves. Then they call someone like me or dive into the books in a last ditch effort to save themselves or their family. There are trustworthy doctors but, the better question may be "do you trust the allopathic approach to medicine?". I do not. I had to beg my medical assistant for the blood tests I wanted and many were refused. She doesn't see a reason for me to know my C-reactive protein or fibrinogen levels. She isn't a doctor but, that behavior is typical of doctors. Choose ignorance over knowledge. Now I have to find a doctor to order these tests for me. It makes me feel insane. Unfortunately, allopathic medicine is far to profitable to toss in the crapper where it belongs. Sincerely, Lamaku. -
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 4:50 AMIn a nutshell, NO. I've had many many horrible experiences with allopaths (sp). Because the insurance companies are in charge, you can't keep the doctor that you do trust when changing jobs because the insurance industry controls everything. You're forced to pick a name from a catalog (provider list) without knowing a thing about them. I've had incorrect diagnosis, they don't listen to you because they have a patient load too large to deal with you properly.
I had an experience two summers ago with a dentist who caused me 3 root canals and left me in the office in pain after handing me a sheet and said "you have to see and endodontist, I don't do that!" After complaining to the insurance company, they paid for the root canals (something my new holistic dentist says my insurance doesn't cover) From my experience, they no longer care. The doctors are angry too and pass that along to the patients.
I now go to an acupuncturist who usually catches whatever it is, before I'm even aware of it. He knows if emotionally I'm going through a rough patch, talks about meditation and the proper foods for me. This is a practice that I trust he'll change the herbs when warranted, not "take this for a month and we'll see what happens" as most doctors do.
Thanks for listening to my rant.
Karen
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Tue, February 26, 2008 - 5:07 AMany that i see are so much in the pocket of the pharm. reps ... it's scary ...
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 5:24 AMMmm...do I trust doctors? I trust them in a life or death situation. As far as preventative and them really knowing what my body needs to sustain itself, no I don't. Only I can know that. Doctors are trained in looking at a specific part of the body, not as a whole functioning energetic being. They treat the symptom, or slap on a bandaid per say. They don't even take nutrition classes. That is just their training, they don't know any better. However I had heart surgery when I was 13. I had no choice but to trust the doctors. Maybe if my mother had known about alternative medicine, there would've been another solution. In either case I have lived 17 years longer than they expected if I hadn't had my heart surgery. I am grateful for my life, partly why I live it to the fullest with every breath. I live a very proactive alternative lifestyle now in order to keep things in check. Part of how I sustain my sanity and body is not living in fear. Doctors have a way of putting you in fear because they are in fear themselves, due to their lack of faith in the bodies ability to heal itself. I respect doctors, but I am a very different "doctor." It is reassuring to know that conventional medicine exists, in case I am in a serious situation out of my control. There isn't much these days out of my control that I haven't been able to prevent anyways, without the help of natural remedies. Our bodies are powerful. -
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Tue, February 26, 2008 - 6:52 AMHi,
It is many of the perspectives of doctors that I do not trust as being beneficial to my well being.
I have observed that a lot of people I know go to doctors to find out "what is wrong"
I have not been to a doctor in over ten years. I do however participate in Network Chiropractic
sessions and get help as much as possible to things I need help with....financial counseling, business coaching,
prosperity coaching, wardrobe designing. I mention these because these things are things I don't know so much about and need help with.
Since not going to a doctor for ten years I have learned to trust myself. I have learned to discover for myself what I actually am feeling and what I need.
I do appreciate connecting with folks who know about plants, healing, shamanic ways, wise old ways of health and well being.
If I feel I am at a loss to know what is going on with me...a health issue I need to help with, then I would consider going to a doctor, a health practitioner etc.....but I have not in ten years needed this.
Peace, Julie
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 7:03 AMI have had such a bad experience with them that i can say not only do i not trust them, i don't like them...their offices are like factories and they most certaily don't diagnose and treat the REAL issue...i had a problem years ago...a chronic problem...the doctor didn't even want to see me anymore...i would just call her and tell her i had a problem..we both knew i can easily diangnose it due to its frequency at the time and she would just send me a prescription to the pharmacy...we would experiment with different meds...one day i picked up a prescription and took one...then another and apparently i was severely allergic and had a RARE allergic reaction...my general doctor had no clue what was wrong and i happen to know an ER doctor who diagnosed my NEW problem...
nonetheless, i was in bed for two weeks and my immune system was compromised...so NO i don't trust them...it wasn't the doctor's fault that i was allergic but perhaps if she had chosen to inform herself and me about some other ways i can help myself on a daily maintainance basis i would have been ok...i didn't have a life threatening problem or anything it was basically a recurring UTI...i haven't had a problem in YEARS since i learned about little things i can do or eat that help prevent this problem...
can they save lives? yes...can they easily misdiagnose and kill? yes..
are they always playing the guessing game or the let's try this shit and see what happens game? always...
that's how i got into healing myself through herbal medicine and i'm still learning but i feel better than ever today...than i ever did on the nasty meds that had horrible side affects...
if only the general public knew about how simple it could be to help yourself without feeling crappy...of course it does take time and dedication and the general public at this time is focused on instant gratification therefore, making a "pill" more appealing...
again, i have to say that doctors and surgery did save my mom's life so i can't say they're ALL terrible...but even dentists are crooks...i know first hand....i've worked for them...
most doctors lack the sensitivity they should have...not saying they should become attatched to the patients but feel for them...so they actually help heal them not just treat the symptom... -
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Tue, February 26, 2008 - 7:24 AMThis is a great question. Especially for people like us who most likely have been self diagnosing and self treating for many years.
I had a great experience with my last doctor. I hadn't had insurance and had some really bad pain (rotator cuff injury) and went to a clinic here in SF. I got the best doctor in the world. she is young and has an MD, but had studied herbs for years as well. That was so lucky since i really hadn't been to doctors in years and the last experience had been so horrible that i had filed a complaint against the doctor.
With Dr. Miller at the clinic, she was so great that I trusted pretty much everything she had to say. I felt like she was working for me and with me. When I had a bladder infection, she recommended antibiotics which I hadn't put into my system in at least 15 years. She put me on a super light dose and it did clear up the problem for quickly and for prolonged effects. As in I haven't had one since.
I guess that I am lucky that I have reasonably good health and my body responds quite well to the herbs I take. And lucky to know the people in the places that I shop for my herbs so that they can help me in a pinch. And lucky that I have not had intrusive doctors in a long time so that I may use them for what they are worth.
Now dentists, that is another thing. I feel like i have to trust them implicitly and fortunately i have a dentist that treats me as a real human being with intelligence and the right to be explained to every step of the way. That is what i like in a health care professional. That they understand that i come equipped with some knowledge about my body and myself and that they treat me respectfully. i will run away from anyone that doesn't treat me that way.
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 7:25 AMhell no!!!!.................but since im no doctor..i need to take my chances...why? cause i must take care of myself....
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speaking of doctors....
Tue, February 26, 2008 - 8:40 AMdo any of you live in portland and have a great MD that they DO trust? i have a fabulous ND but need an MD for my insurance (red tape) and i want one that i CAN TRUST.
sorry if its a little off topic. i was actually on the computer looking for MD and saw this thread.... couldnt resist. :)
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 8:11 AMNO to dr.s I have not been to a family dr. since I was17. I have never trusted dr.s. & have no use for them!!! I have always used herbal, homeopathic, & bach flower remedies. My children have never been to dr.s. -
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 2:38 PMI do not, generally.
I like their tests and information but I never take what they say as the end all, be all of curing an ailment.
I choose to study the human body, anatomy, muscles and organs, functions and processes, chemical make ups and balances, make my own conclusions in combination with the opinions of doctors.
Because thats what they give, professional OPINION.
It takes a combination of knowledge, understanding, and effort and intention to actually heal.
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 6:50 PMJessica, I know a lot of great MD's in Portland.
here is one of the better ones: www.wholehealthnow.com/homeop...or.html
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Just thought I would throw this out there
Wed, February 27, 2008 - 3:15 PMThat there is alot of money to be made in Alternative medicine, and that no group of humanity is above greed . -
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 5:52 PMHi Dustin the handsome. Name one person besides an author that you know that is getting rich doing anything with alternative medicine. I've been in the game for 20 years and I don't know anyone that can make a living at it except for natrapathic doctors and they usually struggle to get clients. If you actually cure someone, they do not need you anymore. Furthermore, they always pretend that there was never anything really wrong anyway. There is a word in psychology to describe it. I just can't recall it. The memory of the problem fades when the pain associated with it isn't there anymore. I wish you were correct, however. Healers are the best people I've ever had the pleasure to know and they deserve to have the comfort money can give. Aloha, Lamaku. -
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 6:03 PMWell.....as long as we continue to put the energy out there that we can't make a living at this or that then we won't.
I know many people that have healing practices of various kinds and they are making a living at their craft.
My intentions are to make enough money to pay for all my expenses and have money to spare and share.
I will accomplish this/ am accomplishing this as I write. It takes a lot of hard work, keeping going, moving beyond what things look like, trusting, believing that this will happen. Attitude is very important to bring this about.
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 6:22 PMDon't misunderstand me Julie, I am glad there are people like you, who can support theirselves, doing what they love. i am simply suggesting, that one should always approach any medical advice with caution.
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 4:39 AMYes. I work at a very successful herbal store where we have clients and help lots of folks. I do say that a lot of the great work comes from informing people of behavioral changes that they need to make. So they get as well as they want. They choose how healthy they will be. Herbs can only do so much if a person eats lots of junk!
The ball is in your hands.
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 6:20 PMI never said all, but there are definitely scams in the alternative health industry. Have you ever seen the amount of products for sale in any health food store?. Also, I rather not point to anything specific, due to the fact that it may offend some people.
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 7:26 PMHi Dustin,
I am with you....I just wanted to make a point in saying that each of us can support ourselves with our work, no matter what we do.
I like the idea that I choose who to put my trust in based on my personal experience and not a generalization.
Peace, Julie
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 7:59 PMLamaku, I know several alternative healers who do well financially. In fact, it's something of a thriving industry in these parts. The difference between making a living as a healer and not actually has little to do with healing itself. It's a business issue. I do see many alternative healers (and practitioners in many other areas) who do indeed fail to earn a living.... and if we examine each case, I'm sure we'd find that it comes down to simple business issues - marketing, getting referrals, budgeting, planning, pricing and so forth.
As for the clients who can't seem to recognize what happened - there are simple solutions for that. That might be a good topic for another thread. I'm a hypnotist and NLP practitioner, not an herbalist, but the situation is pretty much the same. There are some of us who have given a lot of thought to these issues... and there are even some courses you can take in how to make a practice profitable. -
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 10:52 PMHi Phil. There is no doubt that alternative medicine can be profitable but, you either need to risk your own money to start something or get a loan. Then you need a consistant amount of people who have money and are sick. If you sell supplements you can have a certain amount of income. Otherwise, it is really a crap shoot. Some months you can do very well and then have a dry spell put you in the poor house. In my opinion, the only way for alternative medicine practitioners to make a decent living is to belong to a cooperative where a bunch of different types of healers rent different rooms and share a common area. That way if someone comes to see your neighbor they can get exposure to your stuff as well. My problem is that people are not that willing to lay down and have me pray for them. Somehow it seems to good to be true so, they are suspicious. You should see the look on peoples faces when I say I do prayer therapy. Even hardcore health practitioners ignore me. People are so suspicious that I've had them essentially choose to die than let me try to help them. I can make anyone's life better with what I do ( with the exception of atheists who need to be deprogammed first). How do convince people to take a chance? I also have recipes for products that would make me a millionaire in a year or two. Making that happen seems to be an insurmountable problem to me. Just my rant. Aloha, Lamaku. -
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 11:11 PMLamaku,
I hear this is your experience. Mine is somewhat different. Not that I am making lots of money, but I am enjoying contributing and the more I enjoy it, the more I seemed to be asked to participate in other peoples process. I feel somewhat reluctant to put this out there, but what in the interest of potentially contributing, I would highly recomend (to you and to anyone else who is interested) participating in Jean Houston's Social Artistry Program. Where she asserts that our environments and lives are a pallate, we just need to paint them. We have a lot more power and influence if we can only find the skills to tap into them. She has a lot of inspiring experiences that can provide those skills.
Blessings
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 11:17 PMMake the time for your dreams Lamaku.
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 4:43 AMYes there is a lot of misinformation out there. Most of it comes from people looking for the MAGIC PILL!
My personal experiences in life have taught me to not trust doctors from a very young age. I spent a lot of time in the hospital when I was 3.. they said I had rhyes syndrome. I have always felt anxious around doctors and I hate needles. I have learned that I am the one responsible for my own wellness. Many people do whatever they want and rely on doctors..
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 12:15 PMDustin,
I agree..there are a couple of herbal/health stores in my area...two of which are owned by greedy people and the third i go to because the owner is not pushy and not trying to shove shit down my throat...
the greedy bastards think i'm stupid..they try to convince me that if i want to get better or feel better i need such and such items...well these items add up to over a hundred dollars...ok moron....get away from me...that's how i feel sometimes..
healing has to come from the heart...when i make a tincture or an herbal mix it's usually for my loved ones...who knows, maybe someday i'll be informed enough that i can make a living with it but for now, i want to help my family and friends feel good...and if i happen to come across someone who is open minded enough to listen to some advice or opinions i have to offer then that's great...my help is there for them as well...
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 12:40 PM"the greedy bastards think i'm stupid..they try to convince me that if i want to get better or feel better i need such and such items...well these items add up to over a hundred dollars...ok moron....get away from me...that's how i feel sometimes.. "
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 1:32 PMI always tell my students to watch who is trying to sell you something and why. Natural Health Products are as much of a product as anything else and given the fact that historically most herbal healers and some present day herbalists worked with a handful of herbs in their bioregion to have the effects they want, should make us suspicious when the cure all herb comes out on the market. This is challenging, I sell products that I make myself, I grow and wild harvest many of the herbs and try to keep it simple. I am also mindful not to make this the primary source of my business, I prefer to teach others and this is how I make my living. If I were dependent on these products for my livelihood I sometimes wonder if I would market them more assertively, I would hope not, but you never know, if I were trying to get my basic needs met through this means, perhaps things would be different. I choose to be mindful and not let this happen.
Blessings
Linda
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 3:04 PMLamaku, I hope you are open enough to realize that you have presented us with a collection of limiting beliefs - not about healing, but about business. I'll attempt to address these in a general way:
"There is no doubt that alternative medicine can be profitable but, you either need to risk your own money to start something or get a loan."
There are any number of ways to bootstrap a business - that is, build it up from existing resources, no matter how tiny. There are books and probably web resources about this kind of thing. And I might also suggest that sometimes it is worth taking a risk for something you really want to do. In a sense, how much money we are willing to risk on a venture tells us something about how much we value that venture.
" Then you need a consistant amount of people who have money and are sick."
This is a marketing issue - and not just as in "you need to get out there and advertise," but also in perceiving other markets that might benefit from your skill. Are there healthy people interested in prevention? Are there there people who might like to learn to heal themselves in some way?
" Some months you can do very well and then have a dry spell put you in the poor house."
That's the risk in any business, any job, or any life. However, this is mostly a budgeting and pricing issue.
" In my opinion, the only way for alternative medicine practitioners to make a decent living is to belong to a cooperative where a bunch of different types of healers rent different rooms and share a common area. That way if someone comes to see your neighbor they can get exposure to your stuff as well."
One way, certainly, but by far not the only way.
"My problem is that people are not that willing to lay down and have me pray for them."
Again, a matter of perception and marketing. How can you educate people about what you do?
One of many examples: I recently met a gentleman at a conference who does spirit releasement therapy - essentially, he removes aliens from people's auras. Stated plainly, it reads like a National Enquirer headline - but he was able to explain it (and demonstrate) in a way that had people lining up for sessions with him. -
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 6:22 PMi've had a better experience with my last two mds than my nd, haha. i think it REALLY DEPENDS ON THE PERSON/DR.
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Thu, February 28, 2008 - 6:42 PMPhil, this might be a topic worth its own thread
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Re: Just thought I would throw this out there
Thu, February 28, 2008 - 8:19 PMHi Phil. I'm just expressing reality as I've seen it. The SBA says 50% of all businesses fail during the first year. Here's a link; www.businessknowhow.com/startu...ure.htm One of the issues is that people often have poor management skills. Being a healer, I really don't have a heart for business skills. I can do them, I just can't do them and also be a healer. I'm not saying that having a viable healing business is unrealistic. It needs business savvy often absent from people who have a different focus like myself. I would need a business partner to make it work. I acknowledge this as my problem. Everyone is different. I will say that it seems woman can multi-task better than men and I believe it would be easier for a woman healer to have a successful business.
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Fri, February 29, 2008 - 7:23 AMFor the most part no I don't trust doctors. It's really up to ourselves to research and find out all our options and too few people do.
Most people for example never think to first try food as a cure. After so many things being misdiagnosed on me and taking an herbal perspective for most of my needs at this age I just go to Naturopath/md's , I really feel they are much more trustworthy, yet I don't go until it is necessary and after exhausting herbal and chinese medicine first. Also I have no faith whatsoever in psychiatry these days. The problem is they don't relate to diet and nutrition and so often people are just vitamin and mineral deficient. Seen that far to often.
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Re: do you trust doctors?
Mon, March 3, 2008 - 9:32 PMMy perspective of western health care has shifted dramatically since I started school in natural health care. I have a husband with a genetic neurological disorder where there's no cure, he's in constant pain, muscle atrophy, etc and Neurologists can't do anything. Sure, they can prescribe pain medication and recommend orthodics but aside from that, they're worthless, and I do mean that with all due respect. Seeing as how neither of us believe that pharmaceuticals are the answer, we had to search for other options.
It's just that when faced with an incurable disorder, one must face the music and find other alternatives, to take their health into their own hands because western medicine just doesn't have the scope to handle people like my husband. I've seen him in and out of doctors and have been disappointed countless times.
I'm not one to go down the road of "I don't trust doctors" but I definitely don't see them very often. There's no need. I take care of myself 1st and go to natural health care pracitioners when needed. Generally they don't jive with my view of how to maintain health.
There's an interesting dichotomy in my family. I've just finished schooling for various healing art modalities and my sister is just starting her practice as a pediatrician, so I see both ends of the spectrum. I have a lot of respect for the training they have to go through, it's hard work and grueling. They do the best they can with what they're given and what they're taught, that's the way I try to look at it.