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I'm not expecting a miracle herb, in fact I don't think I want one. I know the best way to lose weight is to eat fewer calories and get more excercise, I'm already doing that but would like to know of any herbs that will help without causing a bunch of other problems.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 1:06 PMChickweed tincture is said to aid weight loss.
I believe women need to carry more weight.
If you want to lose weight, look at issues of wanting to disappear and self-hatred.
If those things do not appear too strongly, look at whether you are in menopause or not.
If not nearing menopause then look at the kinds of food you eat........
Also, are you vegetarian/vegan/raw?
In any case, a local, organic and wild whole food diet eaten daily, this includes cooked foods, raw dairy in the form
of milk, kefir, cheese ........and throwing your
scale in the garbage can will bring about your ideal weight.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 1:41 PMChickweed only helps weight loss by acting as a diuretic. If you crave sweets or carbs you might want to try Devil's Club tincture...as it relieves the hunger for carbs. -
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Mon, October 22, 2007 - 2:21 PMYes.....but I have heard something about Chickweed helping with the release of fat.
I don't usually pay too much attention to weight loss herbs so I don't know the info very well.
How does chickweed act as a diuretic that is different from dandelion.
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Mon, October 22, 2007 - 2:37 PMIt doesn't...although dandelion has a more healing action on a damage live while chickweed doesn't. The roots of chickweed as a fresh decoction is decent for constipation. Very gentle.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 2:38 PMLet's try typing that better. Dandelion has a more healing action on a damaged liver...not a damaged live. I use it for cirrhosis cases.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 2:49 PMHi,
I think it is best to explain usage when sharing an herb with someone who is wanting healing.
Just listing an herb as strong as tea tree and in the most drug-like form such as an essential oil
can be bring about the misuse of such an herb.
How would you use tea tree for someone wanting to lose weight?
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 3:04 PMDoesn't matter.
If it's on the internet it's true.
It's human nature to find those things that we want to hear and reinforce what we believe in.
Potentially, you can hear 50 different answers to the same question becasue it of course worked for someone at sometime
and then
Hear exactly the same responses to some different query or ailment, regardless of whether something can actually be treated with an herb, yoga, energy healing, dogma, etc.
~V~
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 3:57 PMjust go get some diet pep (it has caffeine):
www.naturalbalance.com/cgi-bi...duct.pl
or
zappetite (hoodia and caffeine, even better ; )
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:03 PMDon't eat hyper-processed garbage
Exercise
Drink Green Tea ( I put TEA TREE OIL in it)
Be of service to others when you can
Pray to your favorite spaceship people in the sky
Walk around and stretch during marathon computer game sessions
indeedly.
(as he scarfs down a chocolate chip cookie)
:P
~V~
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:51 PMI think what Julie is trying to point out, is that it might be helpful to the thread starter if you gave some further info on dosing and such. Just saying take this, can be perceived as lacking in information, and rightly so.
So, how much did you take, and at what times? With food, or without? Everyday, or once a week? -
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 4:59 PMIt doesn't matter.
It's natural
So it's good
Mother Gaia gave us a tea tree to chew on while wandering in the forest of late stage capitalism.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 5:46 PMI am hoping that your being sarcastic?
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 5:48 PMyerba mate tea seems to suppress the appetite when i drink it. -
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 6:04 PMYes.
I went through a stage a few years ago when I wasn't eating much but drinking quite a bit of Yerba Mate. It has many beneficial properties including being an appetite suppressant and a stimulant.
Natural.
I was sleek and slim.
Another time I was walking more than I usually do which is probably 2-3 miles a day, but I was eating less and when I ate, I was eating salads with tuna fish thrown into it.
Natural.
Sleek and slim.
So, I'm about 13-15 lbs overweight and I'm kinda thinking these cookies are not fat free in spite of tea tree oil supplement which is a diuretic and metabolism booster among other things.
But it's natural.
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Re: Natural stuff, is not always safe
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 6:46 PMBelladonna is natural, yet can easily kill. Yet it has a variety fo medical and spiritual purposes
The Pink Gill mushroom of japan can kill from one bite, yet other members of the Entoloma family are eaten as delicacies in Europe
The point Im trying to make is, that just because something is "Natural"does not make it safe. Pushing such a line of reasoning is stupid and potentially dangerous. Please think before you type, someone might be dumb enough to actually listen to something you have to say.
PS information can set you free, and save others from potential dangers
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Re: Natural stuff, is not always safe
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 7:33 PMMost essential oils can kill you in too high of a dosage when you take them internally. There are a few essential oils that can be taken internally, but the dosage is usually a few drops not "as much as you want". You can cause nervous sytem damage or put somebody in the hospital for kidney failure if you tell them to take essential oils internally in "whatever dosage", and when they die it helps the drug companies give alternative and herbal medicine a bad name. -
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Mon, October 22, 2007 - 7:39 PM"Tea tree oil is toxic when swallowed. It has been reported to cause drowsiness, confusion, hallucinations, coma, unsteadiness, weakness, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach upset, blood cell abnormalities, and severe rashes. It should be kept away from pets and children."
www.cancer.org/docroot/ET...ree_Oil.asp
"Small amounts of tea tree oil are added to supplements to be taken internally for Candida yeast overgrowth or to a mouthwash for inflamed gums, but Lee warns that ingesting too much can be dangerous. "It can be used internally, but only under the supervision of a licensed health care practitioner," she warns, "and be careful of the mucus membranes." Usually, remedies containing tea tree for internal use include merely one or two drops of the potent oil mixed in a formula with other herbs."
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Re: Natural stuff, is not always safe
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 8:15 PMI've never encountered any of that.
I guess the 2 ml I take every day is suitable then!
but then again, the FDA has recommended doses and such for many things, as well as recommended dietary habits and they seem to often be pretty off the mark fucktard governments workers on the take from pharmaceutical conglomerates in many cases after the fact.
BUt then, since it's on the internet, it's true.
I'll stick with natural tree chewing as Mother Gaia intended
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Re: Natural stuff, is not always safe
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 8:23 PMYou take 2 mls of the pure essential oil? That cant be healthy. If you are using a watered down, highly diluted, or tinctured extract of the tea tree I could understand the 2 ml dose, but high doses of the pure essential oil has the potential to induce coma or cause kidney failure and is harmful to the liver and digestive track.
You might lose weight, but not without great harm to your body. Dosage is really important, especially when you are dealing with substances that can induce coma or death. -
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Re: Natural stuff, is not always safe
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 8:27 PM:P
just joshin folks.
Green Tea Extract.
Everything you read on the internet is true.
:)
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Re: Natural stuff, is not always safe
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 8:31 PMyou are going to joke on a tribe where someone might take your information at face value, with something that could easily prove to be fatal? -
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Re: Natural stuff, is not always safe
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 8:35 PMPeople believe all sorts of shit, regardless of the source.
Without putting their thinking caps on
Without questioning the source
Tribe offers tremendously good examples of that on a daily basis
My "joke" is a "poke" at exactly that.
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Re: Natural stuff, is not always safe
Tue, October 23, 2007 - 8:45 AMVerseau,
I am enraged by your jokes as it is not clear you are joking.
although I understand your joke, this is not the place for it.
I come to this tribe to listen to what folks have to say about healing
with herbs and also to help once in a while.
I would appreciate it if you would be clear about when you are kidding.
I have asked Kiva Rose to remove your comments from this thread as I think
they could persuade someone to take your suggestion to ingest large amount of
essential oil, which is poison in my opinion.
peace, Julie
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Re: Natural stuff, is not always safe
Tue, October 23, 2007 - 11:17 AMI must agree with Julie. This is not the tribe to joke about herbs. We love humor but not in the guise of misinformation. This gives all herbalists and herbal practioners a bad name.
Restrain yourself here.
CG
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:35 AMThat's the first I'e heard of tea tree oil for weight loss. Anyone have some data to back it up? Just want to be clear.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:28 AMI've read that chickweed helps increase the metabolism of fats. That is why it's perfect for the diet in the late winter when it can be found growing- it helps us northerners digest all the meat and nuts of a winter diet.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Mon, October 22, 2007 - 10:47 PMVerseau, I haven't laughed louder at comments on tribe for a long time.
I was much slimmer when I was dancing every week end and getting massage once a month.
I laugh at the memory of my duck lips that I got after rationalizing that if my chapstick that had Tea Tree Oil in it was good and healthy that pure tea tree oil on my chapped lips would work extra fast at healing them. I looked like collagen injections gone wrong and I went to work at the Elementary school anyway. It was all my principal could do NOT to look at my lips when he was trying to tell me somthing.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Tue, October 23, 2007 - 7:45 AMEphedra in whatever form, although exercise caution if you have high blood pressure or heart ailments ...
I take it at times for extra energy and when I have a chest cold and it's a great help ...
Helps me focus mentally too ..
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Tue, October 23, 2007 - 6:01 PMOh my, what a mess this thread has become.
Weight loss is a tricky subject and too often defined by people's insecurities and overexposure to media icons.
The only real way herbs can help with long term healthy weight loss is when they're used as consitutional balancers that help correct any underlying imbalances that are leading to an underactive thyroid, water retention and metabolic disorders. And for that, it all depends on the the unique individual, there is no one herb for this.
Stimulants are generally a bad idea as a weight loss technique, they tend to be somewhat addictive and they only work as long as you're using them, not exactly a tonic, sustainable approach.
These references to Tea Tree Oil are patently absurd and clearly sarcastic. This is still a bad and dangerous idea, since not all readers have enough discernment to "get" the jest here. I hesitate to delete these individual posts or the thread as a whole for many reasons. However, if enough people were to speak up and complain about it, I'd surely do so.
For now let me point out once again that internal use of an essential oil is potentially fatal and generally a VERY VERY EXTREMELY bad idea unless you know what you're doing or are being directed by some who knows. This does not include random advice on Tribe. DO NOT INGEST ANY AMOUNT OF ESSENTIAL OIL!
Being dead will indeed make you sleek and slim, down to the bone.
Possibly the quickest and easiest way to drop weight is to cut carbs, but you have to keep them cut. -
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Tue, October 23, 2007 - 6:36 PM
I'd prefer you not delete posts. I think there are enough comments responding on the other side to make it clear what's a joke and what's actual advice.
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Tue, October 23, 2007 - 8:40 PMCutting carbs is not really a sustainable way to lose weight either. The muscles can get all their energy from fat, but the brain suffers on a low carb diet. Even once your body adapts and is able to fuel your brain and nervous system on fat (generally after 10 days of fasting or longer), only the vital portions of the brain will function optimally, and the rest will operate at half capacity. Not to mention many low carb diets are based on meat and dairy and give you WAY too much saturated fats and animal proteins which are more acidic than vegetarian proteins and promote the loss of bone calcium and increased all kinds of health risks from kidney conditions, to cancer, to osteoperosis, to heart attack and stroke. Of course, you CAN lose weight this way, but I dont recomend it.
Instead, eat no more than double the recommended allowance of protein for your weight and activity cycle unless you have special needs, and avoid both saturated and trans fats along with cheap sweetners that are calorie rich but do not provide satiety. High fructose corn syrup does not produce the same feeling of "fullness" or stimulate the metabolism the same way complex carbs do. You want slow releasing complex carbs, a variety of proteins but not too too much from animal sources, very low levels of animal fats including dairy, and lots of healthy raw oils that contain the the right balance of unsaturated fatty acids.
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Wed, October 24, 2007 - 5:10 AMYes.....I understand about not deleting.....I am feeling a bit protective of people seeking advise for weight loss as I know
it is an emotionally driven issue.....for me anyway. I agree with Kiva that working to nourish and create a healthy lifestyle/body
is best and really we are just too obsessed with weight loss in our culture. I see people that are absolutely emaciated and they think
they are healthy.
Again, I encourage you to get rid of your scale and begin to connect with your body and yourself as a whole.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Wed, October 24, 2007 - 10:08 AM
I want to thank you, Julie, for your thoughts and warmth in this thread. It is always good to read you!
And I agree on the getting rid of the scale thing. That was one of the best things I ever did for my mental health.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Wed, October 24, 2007 - 7:32 AMYikes, I wasn't talking about cutting carbs completely. I'm talking about cutting "cultural carbs" mostly meaning grains and sugars. Veggies and some fruits are great fuel for your brain and otherwise and you will still lose weight that way.
Eat more veggies and less meat, far less grains, far less sugar and you'll likely lose weight and be more healthy all the way around. I've seen this help a lot of people, in a long term way. Fat is good for you and most americans eat far too little high quality fat. Meat and dairy products both, from appropriate sources, especially wild meat and raw, fermented dairy can be incredibly nourishing foods.
And it really does depend on your body/ethnicity/lifestyle/bioregion how much dairy, meat or whatever you should be eating. My ancestors in far northern europe often subsisted on a diet made up of mostly fermented milk products, meat, root veggies and seasonal greens. Look to primitive peoples' diets for an idea, and at your own ancestors (pre-agricultural) diet for an even better idea.
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Wed, October 24, 2007 - 9:01 AMI've been fighting the battle of the bulge for 30 years, and I've found that cutting my carb intake (bread, tortillas, pastas...along with sugars) has helped cut my weight. Adding a mile or two of walking each morning has also shown a difference.
As a type II diabetic I've notice my blood sugar level (always high) is dropping very nicely thank you.
The difficulty was giving up bread (love sandwiches) and flour tortillas (my enchiladas took a first place at the county fair this year!), and there is not such thing as bread replacements that taste better than cardboard.
The carb craving was neutralized by the small amount of Devil's Club root tincture I have left, and 2 teaspoons of aloe vera juice a day.
I'm eating several vegetarian meals a week, but will never give up meat completely as my body seems to metabolize meat protein better than anything else.
Before I die, I want to lose another 25 pounds.
Currently I stand at 184. Starting weight was 220. Not bad so far. Wish me luck.
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Wed, October 24, 2007 - 11:41 AMi try to walk that much every day, usually up this very steep hillside/mountainside, very taxing and lungburning, so its a real workout and the reward is a very intense view of the city and surrounding hills ...... and then a nice indulgent hot shower, or cold shower ....
although, I sometimes go stupid with binging on high carb sandwiches and baked goods like an idiot ... and recently started drinking sodas again ... gotta stamp that out ...
beer too ... bad bad bad ...
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Re: herbs for weight loss?
Wed, October 24, 2007 - 1:19 PMHere is what I did after we moved here to our farm.
I was pretty stagnant....moving, purging alot of old stuff and I was making friends with
buttered toast just too often.....I started building a permaculture garden with sheet mulching.
Everyday, hauling compost back and forth for at least two hours.
Within a months time I felt great, lots of endorphines flowing and my clothes weren't so tight, even a bit lose.
Really, I don't weight myself because those numbers can wreck havoc with my self concept.
But exercising was 'the' best thing for changing my habits.
Walking doesn't work for me because I get kinda bored.
Where i live I meander because it is so beautiful, I end up looking at what weeds are growing along the roadside.
But having a task to do that would accomplish something really helped.
More of that coming this winter
I say, "Love yourself as you are and be healthy"
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Wed, October 24, 2007 - 1:28 PM
I know intellectually that the best thing I could do for my health is to do some aerobic exercise. But I also know that if I do it because I "should" that that will not work for me, it will just make me feel worse.
Walking works if I'm doing it to walk *somewhere* rather than just walking, so I know I would walk more if I lived in a more urban environment, where not only are there closer things to walk to, but it's interesting to look at things (window shopping, people watching, etc.) while I'm walking. Unfortunately I live in an apartment so I don't have the option of hauling compost.
<sigh>
My latest thing is parking a ways away when I go to get my coffee at Peet's, which is my daily treat to keep my spirits up. (I am currently unemployed.)
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Wed, October 31, 2007 - 1:24 PMI am a major carb junky...I believe it is connected to my heritage...my whole family are recovered alcoholics and all are over weight and have diabetis2.I am the "thin one" but only because I never had kids and am the youngest.My future does not bode well if I dont do some major life style changes.
How much Devils Claw do you recommend.I am currently consuming 1000 callories a day from cough drops(glucose syrup...long storey)and need to kick these cravings.I figured since I ate them all day long,I had pretty "stable blood suger"...I mean it's like having a perminant glucose drip right?The only time I spike is when I eat "real food",usually some what healthy stuff(whole grains,stir fry(but a half hour after eating,I feel myself going into a coma,can't keep my eyes open.)
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Wed, October 31, 2007 - 1:44 PMBe careful, Devil's Claw and Devil's Club are two very different plants. Devil's Club, Oplopanax horridus, is a Ginseng relative from the NW and Alaska. Devil's Claw refers to either an African anti-inflammatory or a Southwest native food plant. Don't want to get them mixed up.
Here's an interesting article on Devil's Club by NW herbalist Ryan Drum ryandrum.com/Devilsclub.htm
No herb will help if you don't change the food too of course. Also, adding minerals Magnesium and Chromium can help the body with more efficient uptake and use of insulin and glucose.
A pint of the strong tea per day might be a place to start, but listen to your body! Michael Moore also wrote about this plant in his Medicinal Plant's of the Pacific West.
Also, for pre-diabetes blood sugar swings you might try Elderberry before Devil's Club, it can be quite effective and is far more available and common. -
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Thu, November 1, 2007 - 11:07 AMThank you so much for the link.I happen to be hypothyroid and he had some very interessting information about this.I will be ordering some of his herbs when they are inseason.Nice site.
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Wed, October 24, 2007 - 3:43 PMThe first time i heard of Tea tree oil is from my girlfriend who studied @ "Shloss" Da father of medicinal oils.
she treated people with it sometimes using it oraly lots of water 1 or 2 drops down the throat.
never for a diatery solution but for diagestion and achs problems and more..
you see - i sure in everything in life one have to know whats the right way to achive balance with those tools he got..
do not copycat someone elses solutions, to a different problem in a different persone or what you facing now... its wrong!!! we'r not politicians.,...
info from the net is otomatically a suspect - so all of us should filter-pick info - select - and use our head... the net is destined for the stuff you dont hear on national tv. so let us push the envelopes here as well! all you "scholars" just deal with it.
there is guidlines.... but the main thing is to know your plants and your body.
everything else is natural dynamic instinct for a pumping life.
my recomendation for you is: Mushrooms. and feel free to go for the Magic as well.
Magic mushrooms (Stropharia cubensis) in specific will depress hungar and it is like most indoles, a diuretic. 1. hormones will flow and exchange better with neurotrasmiters trafic laws.
2. the notion will last longer then the actual expereance.
I experience psilocybin to be eliminating and alterating in our body. that meens:
3. it will drain out your toxins and will help focus on specific places/organs that needs cleensing or need better attention.
and as it will folow you, you will become more and more in touch with your body by using it and ecepting it to your concious life.
now i do not meen - use it every day. ONLY YOU CAN KNOW - when is the time, when is the place, the dose and the legitimation you giving it or to any other plant.
shai.
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Sun, October 28, 2007 - 7:03 PMnot only will the psilo. mushrooms bring about diuretic change but cognitive shift .
you can re-evaluate whether you want to keep doing the high carb. diet that you've been on. etcetra, etcetra .
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Wed, October 24, 2007 - 9:58 PMI say, "Love yourself as you are and be healthy" I was just going to mention that one of my friends reminded me that we are perfect and as we accept that we feel perfect.
I was successful losing weight after a year and a half of aerobics but was unsatisfied. I found more balance learning more yoga and listening to what freaks out my own body and truly staying away from it. Go figure... I lost weight by cutting my ice cream, cookies and bread intake to a quarter of what it was.
I still eat meat and will until I figure out how to make vegitarian meals taste like they do at Breitenbush.
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Thu, October 25, 2007 - 7:13 PMIt really depends on what is causing your weight gain. Is your blood sugar stable? Do you get hungry often or are you on a sugar rollercoaster through out the day? Maca will help stabilize the blood suger and there-by prevent exceesive and frequent hunger.
If stress is the cause- Holy basil and Rhodiola can help reduce the production of cortisol. Cordyceps will help energize and increase metabolic efficiency thereby reducing stress response. It's a little different depending on what the root conditions are to begin with.
Have you had colon irrigation therapy? SOmetimes is good to start a new regime with that. It's very important to be sure the waste stream is not backing up.
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Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:57 PMgood thread everyone.
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Mon, October 29, 2007 - 6:19 PMThanks Renee, I so appreciate the positive feedback!
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Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:14 AMDo you have a stressfull job? How is your complexion? Any skin rashes? How is your elimination? Sometimes colon irigation is a good start so that the waste stream is not impared. Then I would look at hunger patterns. Do you snack often? If frequent hunger is observed, it may be a blood sugar problem. Maca or suma with guayusa tea will help not neccessarily together but both added to the diet in the first part of the day. If stress and cortisol seem to be a contributing factor, holy basil and rhodiola are good. If you are a marihuana user, blood sugar may be the issue. WHen blood sugar drops, we get hungry. We may not need the nourishment our bodies seek. We just need to rest or change our diet to exclude processed sugars that cause a glucose elevation in the blood. Give us some feedback on the questions and I'm sure we can provide more accurate advise. Avoid corn fructose syrup.
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Tue, October 30, 2007 - 5:24 PMDry brushing of the body before shower, upwards towards the heart.The whole body, concentrate on fat areas. Depending on your age, several teas,but you don't give much info. I swear by the brushing then shower and lymphatic auto massage with oils- thyme, grapefruit, and basil, lemon cyprus and Mystic- ( 5 drops per teaspoon of almond oil, carrot and primerose-if you want the exact measue let me know- that combined with your exercise and less calories of course. Eat less- depending on your age. Kidney rub upon awakeing ( see Chi Kong) and drink water with lemon or orange, depending on whether you are acidic or alkaline? Eat small green leaves, some fruit (plums?) and dance your heart up! Water, water, water of life! Amazing- once the metabolism kicks in, weight drops away! -
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Thu, November 1, 2007 - 12:13 PMHello,
Everyone has been contributing amazing info to this thread.
I just wanted to add that our colons do not need flushing or cleaning.
Our colons are very slippery and don't hold anything. The tissue is not meant to be disturbed by humans, misguided that they need to clease.
Any kind of stress to them can cause problems in the long run.
Nourish the colon with fermented foods and inulin containing plants (dandelion root, burdock root, elecampane root)
Peace, Julie
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